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Oof.  I know this one is an emotional roller-coaster, but I believe it's important for a lot of reasons.

I don't want to say much about the above as I'd rather leave you to offer your own commentary.  But I should probably point out the flashback panel on the second page, giving a brief unclear image of Ky and Heather's mom (one of the worst - if not THE worst - parental figure in the story).  I don't plan on going too much into her beyond this in this main story (because it's kind of just in the past and not terribly relevant overall), but there's a little further talk about their mother in the bonus chapter of Volume 3.  The panel itself is a scene from there.  

Beyond that though, regarding everything else.  I'd rather hear your thoughts.  On Drew.  On Ky.  On what this means for the future of these characters?  This is potentially very sensitive subject matter for a lot of people though, so please be mindful of that and respectful of your fellow readers.  Thank you.


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8947jts Featured By Owner 4 days ago
I had such high hopes for Drew too, it seemed he was finally figuring out how he felt about Ky, and becoming fully accepting of them. But no, he had to ruin it. Drew, you fucked up big time.
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WubMeister Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Wow. Ky handled that like a champ.
I feel bad for them. I really do. I don't actually know what would happen to me if I was somebody's shame. Ky has always been my favourite non-main character even though they are a main character
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Elemarth Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2017
Finally
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Valdris Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2017
I want to give Ky the biggest hug right now..... I've wanted to do that for a few characters now, especially Rain, but Ky's face.... Ky needs hugs now
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flateargoblin Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2017
Drew's reaction is going to say slot about his development.
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gungho1000 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2017
This is not good enough for me I want to see drew burn. Or maybe at least with a black eye... what too much?.  Great way of handling it.
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KarlijnVasari Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh no poor Ky :( 
Still, I love this page because it's so clear and intense.
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:iconthe-real-wolf-spider:
Dammit Drew.  Not that My suggestion of what you were trying to say was much better (at all) but I am really trying to like you and your development into understanding more about how people are rather than what you've been probably been told growing up and then you throw out these comments which show that your e not getting it at all and act as a complete slap in the face to who Ky is.
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MNamelessSouL Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
ky is handling this really maturely tbh. i'm kind of glad things ended this way, since it MIGHT be a good lesson for drew to re-evaluate his decisions in life
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snazzyhopper Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
ohhh darn, i was really hoping they would work out <:c
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louisdragon109 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Rip that band-aid off right now.
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KittyStClare Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
I still hope Drew can pull his head out of his ass and show Ky how much he cares for them.
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KittyKailyn-chan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
Ky actually went a lot easier on Drew than I thought they would. Almost too easy.
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KittyKailyn-chan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
Well Drew does deserve what he gets, sorta. He fudged up.
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Blufire1992 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Student Writer
-sighs- oh well this ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean... 
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Wiinner159 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2017
This sunken ship is brought to you by the anti-love torpedo team. Where it's not only the hull that's being ripped to shreds!
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geneseepaws Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
That just makes me hurt so much for Ky, ... Hurt so much,  I just... No words for Ky, only a shoulder to cry on.
I thought that Drew really liked Ky, but yeah, it's just not going to work, just no way for me to see Drew getting it. Drew is just too dense to grasp what is being said to him.  

And this makes me very sad, because I thought I could relate to Drew, ... Yeah no.  Drew, you failed me.
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FairySmash Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
This seems to me like the better outcome. Regardless of intentions, desires, or whatever else, Drew just isn't at a place in his life where he can be grown up and mature enough to even handle himself and know what he wants. Ky is much more mature, evidently, probably as a result of all these life experiences, and as a result it's just hard to be compatible with someone who's clearly much less mature.
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Superspeed12 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Student Artist
People already declaring it's over between them, man every relationship has very rough moments, my girlfriend is very clingy and I'm the only one that drives out of the 2 of us, also we still live separately , so I've had some very rough times when I get frustrated or she gets frustrated if we can't see eachother, I know her ideal is we see each other every day, and while I can live with that , I can't live with it if I'm the only one who can drive and it's always me having to pick her up and take her home at stupid late hours of the night, then to have only 2 hours of sleep and then have to drive to work for an hour, then work 8 to 12 hours  , iv had to disappoint her a lot telling her "not today" because I too tired , sometimes I give in and see her anyway , but regardless I still give her my love and attention as much as I can , so I still have hope for the ship to work out , and if you were gonna ask no she doesn't than any gender identity issues , but she does have some mental issues and alergic to almost everything:-(,.    But I still love her to death
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SilverAureus Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
i hope even if they can't salvage this relationship they can at least be friends
drew is an idiot and he's got a long way to go and it's great that he's trying but i just don't think he's ready to let go of his fear of judgement enough to be there for Ky the way he needs to be
and as for Ky well they need someone who can support all of them, not just the girl mode or the boy mode, every and all mode, who can at least be accepting and loving if not totally understanding themselves, it's hard to understand something you haven't experienced yourself after all
i really wanted this to work, for both of them, but if it can't then i'm glad it's ending here instead of further down the line where it'll only hurt them both more
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JamieAgathaRose Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You have two people here who have been through some real bullshit in life. It's sad that they have so much trouble getting past their own problems to be able to help each other.

Unfortunately this is how it goes down a lot of the time. Assigning blame to one or the other isn't going to fix it.
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LostPadawan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed. I wasn't against their ship but I kinda saw this coming. Too bad for Ky. And Drew too I guess.
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Lanodan35 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Drew please do something nice…
I feel like Drew got to understand/be understanding, I mean Drew been through some queer things already if I remember well…
Also it’s not like Rudy was nice to Ky’ on this topic too, and Drew please go inform yourself.

Anyway, can graduates/whatever skip prom without issues in Rain Universe?
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flex35 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
Hugs Ky, I can see that you really wanted this to work and you are completely justified for ending the relationship.

From What Ky has said, it almost sounds like an abusive relationship, where the abuse isn't intentional, is all verbal, never really makes an effort to understands the other and doesn't get how much the other is hurting. Drew seems to be attracted to Ky in the gender modes he has seen Ky in, but doesn't completely get what the difference is between them, even though Ky has explained it on multiple occasions. Some how I can't see this relationship working out, during the time line of the comic (I am guessing the comic ends sometime around the end of the school year), since I can't see Drew being educated in the right gender topics, that could help him understand what Ky is going through, during his time in high school. And believe me, I wanted this relationship to work, but after all of Drew's short comings, I can't see it working out.
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LostPadawan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed. I wasn't against their ship, in fact I'm never against two people being happy, but this was obviously a long time coming.
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flex35 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
In truthfullness, I was hoping that Drew would start to understand Ky and together they could go out and not worry what others think, cause the affection they had for each other was that strong. I was unfortunately delusionally hopeful.
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LostPadawan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I hoped so too but something told me it wouldn't happen.
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Animasword Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
So...yeah...that was an emotional gut punch.

It's sad because this relationship could have been the confidence boost the two of them needed, but it would only work if Drew was able to get over his fears, and he just couldn't do it.

I agree with many of other commentors here that Drew is not a bad person, but he does seem to be very dense and self-absorbed. Ky has explained her situation to Drew, but only the parts are convenient for him sink in.
He likes the idea of a girl dressing up like a boy, but he doesn't take it seriously. He hasn't ever processed why Ky does it, or the emotional stress it puts her through, worse still, he ranks it below his own social standing.

Unless Drew goes through some major league character development in the next few chapters, it looks like this relationship is sadly not to be.
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Iximaz Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Student Writer
That hit way too close to home.

My ex was basically exactly the same as Drew. As soon as I brought up the idea of hormones, suddenly he was a lot less enthusiastic about having a genderfluid person to date.

There's a reason he's my ex now.
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Decibel404 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 13, 2017
Hormones? You wanted to be androgynous or...
Because i'm gender fluid too, and i don't know what to do about hormones :/
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LostPadawan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I'm sorry to hear that.
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Student Writer
The last page really set things up so, I really don't blame Drew Ky is who they are and that is a amazing thing, but Drew on the other hand has some issues about his classmates plus how they will think of him, common thing in high school. But Drew needs to get past that or else a relationship will not work, on the other hand considering what Ky has been though the amazing things is that they are happy most of the time that truly is amazing.
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animeviewer66 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
nooooooo! :(
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Micha-the-spork Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Wow. That hits close to home, though with my own internal dialog more than with any specific person, yet. Thank you for this. Gives me a new way to be looking at things.
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DraygaQueen Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Odd Q, where does this leave prom? For the both of em... Since names have likely already been submitted...
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iamarianna Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Sometimes change is only possible after a great upheaval in a given situation, and Ky basically just stood up and flipped the table.  I don't think Drew has really thought about what Ky really means to him, and it really sounds like he's never accepted that the fact that Ky has female parts doesn't mean that she could never be a boy in any sense other than dressing like one.  I think he's attracted to girl Ky, but tolerates boy Ky long enough to get back to the girl he's actually in love with.
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DraygaQueen Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
He actually started liking Ky when it was boy Ky... He's just confused and scared (and with the school rightly so)

But he has to learn to stop trying to please society to the exclusion of what he is...

Much of the comic has been about Rain coming to terms with this issue in her own life.

You have to be you, cause no one else can do it!
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Freddy-kun Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
wrong timing, wrong place. Drew's going to need a lot of time and support if he's ever going to get there, and it looks like he really does want to. But Ky is not the right person to carry his ass all the way up. They shouldn't have to and they aren't obligated to. If Drew cares, he'll figure out how to carry his own ass up. I've seen his situation before, and it's not the end of the world, and he's not a bad kid. But he's got hang ups, like any fucking teenager would, and he has to be the one to learn how to deal with them. I want to support Drew. I love this character, even with every flaw and every foot he sticks into his friggin' mouth lol. I want to see him succeed someday. Maybe not with Ky, maybe not even with a genderfluid partner. But someday I hope he has the courage to not care if people get "the wrong idea."
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SerraBritt Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If it at least seemed like Drew was trying, I'd disagree with Ky.  But it doesn't look like Drew is trying at all.  And that leads to it appearing like he doesn't care either.  So when he says he cares but still repeatedly does this stuff, it seems like he's lying.  Better to not be in such a place when there are romantic feelings.
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mhtg Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017   General Artist
On one hand this is a good thing, on the other, I wish that Drew had heard of couples that swap roles for prom, from what I have heard, it is relatively accepted, heck I would give serious props to anyone who pulls it off, and I mean actually pull it off, but the trouble is, Drew gives too much of a damn about what other people think, and that is no way to live.
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sailorbard Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
For FSM's sake, Drew.  DO the right thing, say you're being an idiot and hug him.

I say him because Ky's wearing the hoody, which i've taken to associating with boy-mode Ky.  If I've misgendered, please let me know.
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flex35 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
Don't worry, you got the gender right. Though I think it will take more than Drew admitting his ignorance, to save this relationship.
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MahouShoujoOfPotato Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Uh, poor Ky...
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CaldoRosa Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Great
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Musetry Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
...At least Ky's cutting it off now, before things get any worse...
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Kubalub Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Student General Artist
I hope I'm not nitpicky but... What exactly is stopping Ky from going in a tuxedo if boy mode is on? I think Rain & pals already established that they check who you are on entrance or on some kind of list, but no one cares on the prom itself. Unless a "girl in a tuxedo" is somehow unnacceptable? I remember a few girls were in tuxedos on my prom and literally no one cared. I really don't see how boy mode poses such a problem XD
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Professional Writer
Technically, Ky probably COULD get into prom in a tux if it was necessary.  Neither Drew or Ky know that though.  Although we know from what Emily relayed to Rain and everyone, neither of these two were present for that discussion.

That said, the problem really comes down to Drew's fear of judgment from his peers.  Even if he knew for a fact that Ky could safely get into prom wearing a tux if he needed to, Drew is still afraid of how his classmates will see that.  "What does it say about me if my date is a guy or in a tux?"  Drew doesn't intentionally mean to hurt or control Ky, but it's more or less what he's doing, and it's a pretty selfish way of thinking.  
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Kubalub Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Student General Artist
I see, it's really a shame then. I really like Drew despite his goof ups. I can kinda relate to his fear, though from a slightly different angle. I hope he'll find a way to overcome his fear. Crossing my fingers that DreKy will survive somehow XD (though I might be to optimistic about it)
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FireChick12012 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017
Poor Ky. *hugs* Yeah, they're pretty much doomed from the start. Drew can't seem to get past his own prejudices, and Ky wants to be themselves without any pain or drama, and neither want to back down. I think it'd be better for the both of them to just stay away from each other. They both have different goals in life, and getting together will only hurt both parties.
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LostPadawan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
But also, after her warning, I expected this to be much worse and leave so pissed my mouth would taste like copper. I don't and I just feel sad for Ky. However I can see how this would leave people who went through similar experiences emotional. I feel sorry for Ky but to be honest, I thought this would happen much sooner.
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