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RAIN p186 - Flux by JocelynSamara RAIN p186 - Flux by JocelynSamara
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Read all of the dialogue very closely, and we actually learn quite a bit about Gavin here. Some “Gavinny goodness”, if you will.

And ooh… Another short set of black and white scenes that portray past events in the story. Heh, I guess if this were an anime, this chapter would be like the dreaded “recap episode”. Thankfully, it’s easier to get away with this stuff in comic form so that it’s not annoying or slowing things down too much.

The first flashback panel is from when Gavin discovers Rain’s identity and sulks about it (page 23 – Friends…). The second is when Rain explains the transition process to Gavin and why it’s so important (that being the aptly named page 93 – Transition). The final flashback panel (from page 129 – Tag Along), refers to a point in which he tried to dissuade Kylie from pursuing Rain… though Gavin himself may not have realized he was doing it at the time.

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8947jts Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015
You know I've been in high school for 3 years and never had a crush, thereby avoiding one of these conversations. (Ace perk!)
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kristaoconnors Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013  Student General Artist
If she has one more person get a crush on her, she'll officially be a Mary Sue. This does not bode well.
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akaCaitlinne Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Um, did you forget the amount of love notes she got in chapter one?! :D
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kristaoconnors Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Curses! Her transformation is complete, we must sacrifice her under the full moon in the Barnes and Nobles to appease the Gods of Literature!
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Suki-chan36 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
Rereading this, I had a brief moment of "?!" when I read Gavin saying "She told me she wanted to go all the way". Needless to say, I calmed down after I read the latter half of his sentence. xD
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Ryu890 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2012
This is how you DO a flashback though! Not as an annoying recap of everything we knew already. You're explaining 'new' information (Gavin's side), using the past scenes as a visual aid!
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Jax-Oh1 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
i think gavins responce is....the next best thing to pure love....cause while it shows hes still hetro, it also shows hes willing to wait and see what rain does.
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HiSenshi Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hehehes, yes...Rain IS cute... ^^

I'm hoping he sticks around, at least! Gavin's not such an asshole like everyone thinks he is, I don't think...

~ Hi-chan <3
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MicronConvoy Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012
Ahem... These are some interesting insinuations Jocelyn
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Professional Writer
Just because some of the characters are based off real people does not mean that they are 100% identical to those they're based off. In the end, the really are just fictional characters. So, no, I insinuate nothing.

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MicronConvoy Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Ha ha ha! Just checkin'. Comic's coming along really well.
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ThornPie Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I read "Gavinny" as "gravy" at first. :l
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tglover12345 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
fus...RO DAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PrincessPetticoat Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
Maria looks really cute in the second panel. She looks so....i dunno...confused? It must be the hair. I like it!!
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
I don't mind the flashbacks. In fact, you know what I think would be cool? If Gavin had a flashback of himself having a flashback- OH GOD IT'S GAVINCEPTION.

Seriously, though, this page does bring a little bit more of Gavin's personality (and particularly, his feelings toward Rain) to light. For one, we learn that his feelings toward Rain do have a degree of physical dependence - while he may feel attracted to her, he won't be comfortable having a romantic relationship with her as long as she is physically female. At first, this did strike me as sort of shallow; this may be a fault, however, with my own view of romantic relationships. I've always seen love as between two personalities, rather than two bodies - however, I acknowledge that there may be a significant physical aspect of love that my viewpoint simply ignores. Either way, I prefer not to judge characters - they are what they are, and I wouldn't desire any to change without reason. Gavin still considers himself straight (despite Rudy's earlier accusation that he's "gay for Rain", one of my favorite Rudy quotes so far). However, it also sounds like he views romantic relationships as a burden - he'd rather his crush be shot down, then let it flame on. Or, perhaps the actual burden would be in waiting for Rain to make her physical transition. Also, it's interesting that Gavin tries to simplify his relationship with Rain ("and that's all there is to it") when their relationship is one of the most complicated I've seen in any piece of fiction (they were childhood best friends, who were split apart, and one of them began living as the other gender, and then they met again, and now the one's attracted to the other, but isn't sure whether to move forward or keep things on the friend level. And that's all there is to it.) Regardless of whether or not they end up together, I really love their relationship, and I greatly enjoy watching it develop.

I love seeing Gavin get developed, especially in these pages of "Gavinny goodness". It seems like his future path depends on just how Rain "swings"; and so, the eyes and curiosities of the world turn back to our heroine...
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Student Writer
Quite the interesting discussion going on here. I can kind of understand what Gavin is going though, i mean he like Rain even if technically she is physically a boy. I guess that it would be better for Gavin if she was a lesbian because he could relax a bit with his crush, but he is willing to wait for her to fully transition which i guess is kind of sweet, though her would be waiting for a long time. But the fact is that Rain is cute and i can see what Gavin is dealing with but this love triangle is getting pretty confusing. I guess it will get solved when we find out who she likes. As for dating a lesbian i am sure that it great... if you are a lesbian too.
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Q9R42 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh, yes.. The recapper.. Always recapping.. In all seriousness though! Recapping has never been worse than what it was in Final fantasy 10. Yuna recapping everything at the end ruined everything the game had built up, in my opinion. I guess i should have heeded the warning. "Stay away from the summoner", she said. But did i listen? NO!! Of course not!
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Animasword Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's cool to get a look at Gavin's mindset here (even if it threatens some people's shipping plans), and it would be interesting to see if Gavin was willing to try and make it a proper relationship (if Rain was into guys obviously).
On a side note, I also never got that whole 'dating lesbiens is cool' attitude amongest some guys; it might be cool to watch if you're into that sort of thing, but it's not like you're going to get anything out of it yourself.
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echic10 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
Exactly! I've turned down several guys who tried to convince me that I should date them.
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Nericlak Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
And now we just need Rain to be COMPLETELY oblivious to all of this and you have an anime capable of raking in TONS of dough.
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LeucisticRaccoon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I can totally see how that would perfectly in the storyline.

Gavin: Rain... I... Like you, a lot...
Rain: Aw, I like you too! We /have/ known each other since childhood.
Gavin: You don't understand, I mean, I /like/ like you!
Rain: ...
Rain: I... I don't know what to say...

KAWAII!

....srry...
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Nericlak Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
EXACTLY! NOW PLEASE EXCUSE ME WHILST I THROW MY WALLET AT THE SCREEN!
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maruul Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Haha, oh dear. Everyone likes Rain, and I don't think Rain is gonna know what to do with it (I know I wouldn't).
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coffinstufferd Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
everybody loves Rain. <3 and why not? shes very luffable
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
BACK OFF GAVIN! You ruin the chance of my favorite pairing I'll beat you over the head with a stick... IT'S A RATHER LARGE ONE TOO!
But in all seriousness my god sir I cannot support you going after her for you still somewhat see her as Ryan and that will prevent a successful relationship for it shall keep confusing your feelings. Even if you do manage to see her as only Rain those thoughts may still linger *nods* Yes I dare say I have actual reasons for why I support RuIn the most, quite.
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Suki-chan36 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
So Gavin might ruin the RuIn? =P
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Essentially yes, well put well put indeed
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Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
thats pretty interesting. so Gavin only has a crush on Rain cause shes planning on getting the operation someday? thats a bit shallow imo. i get it but its still confusing
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Professional Writer
I don't know if it's really shallow, per se. Rather, I think it's quite the opposite, personally.

People can't help their sexuality. Just as you can't "cure" homosexuality, you can't make someone stop being heterosexual either. So, if Rain never planned on transitioning, that would make it kind of asking a lot for Gavin to be able to look past. However, the fact that he's willing to wait - specifically for Rain - is actually rather open-minded of him, I think. Perhaps even really sweet.

Maybe that's just the way I see it though. ^^;
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BoiChick Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
There are so many points in that.

I'm gay and ftm and I personally hate being a straight guy's exception to the heterosexuality. It's frightening. While romance is important, if you're together long enough, sex can be important to love, too.
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Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
it might be, but i dont really see it as love. i get that hes willing to wait but it just seems superficial to me. i get it, he cant be with her until shes a full woman. but thats a long time to wait, seeing how long it takes to transition
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Avistew Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
I think there is more to transition than getting the operation and having "lady parts", and there are many people who are, for all purposes, one gender, but to have the genitals of the other sex (including people who are physically matching their gender in every other aspect).
I don't think it's impossible for a heterosexual person to be with such a person because I know it exists. But it IS true that for many males the presence of a penis, no matter who it's on, is a turn-off.

Anyway, my point is that I don't see it as either shallow or deep. I think that's just whatever Gavin happens to be comfortable with right now (and it could change), and I think that the fact he gave it any thought at all is what makes it open-minded, more than the specific conclusion he came to.
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Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
i can see your point, it was just a bit confusing to me having never seen this kind of situation before
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echic10 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Professional Photographer
If a het male falls for what he can plainly see is a pretty young woman, but the first time they get hot and passionate he discovers she is a pre-op M2F, then it is not at all improbable that he will dump her, no matter how much he loves her.

The procedure a M2F has to go through is long and (deliberately) difficult. Long-term psychiatric therapy, the real-life test, then the actual operation. You're talking about 2-5 years and a good $50,000. Many never make it. So Gavin is making quite a commitment.
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Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
i get it already, i understand all of this. i said it wrong, i didnt mean it like i said. i was just confused about it and that was the best i could think of
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RenegadeSaint Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconthisplz: I agree, a person's bits don't make them suddenly not "real"--and it's fine to have preferences, just not fine to be an idiot about it.
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Musetry Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Heheheh. ^^ I think I know how Gavin feels. Knowing who and what someone is can't stop the feeling of love- especially if they might become compatible as a result. (though that probably sounds kinda weird...)
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Chicken-Yuki Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012   Traditional Artist
Gavin's last words should be taken as words of wisdom.

Though I wouldn't really know what it's like... ^^;
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EllieNoodleSoup Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So this isn't so much a love triangle as it is a love tetrahedron.
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coffinstufferd Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
lolz
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