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RAIN p152 - Silent Treatment by JocelynSamara RAIN p152 - Silent Treatment by JocelynSamara
(Kinda earlyish post. Whatever. I'm here; it's ready. Let's do this.)

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I admit, Id be ticked if I was Kylie too. Though I imagine Gavin and Rudy probably WANT to tell him. But how?

Besides, Rudys falling more and more in the doghouse with Rain lately, and doesnt need to top it off with outing her (again, if you count Chapter 1). And Gavin spent the first four chapters trying to get OUT of the doghouse; surely, he doesnt need to screw it up again now.

If you were in their position, how would you respond? Is there a right way to approach this that would appease Kylie and NOT devastate Rain?

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arbysmcdouble Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Student General Artist
im laughing so hard "is she super close minded or something" like yes. that is exactly where your train of thought would go. of course
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8947jts Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014
Even if s/he couldn't read people (and Rain passed perfectly) just from the conversations s/hes heard Ky/lie probably could have connected the dots by now. I mean i've never been in this situation before but I probably would have. **SPOILER**(And if the 's/he's and 's/hes's are offensive to anybody in any way, I say it because Ky/lie is gender fluid rather than transgender or cisgender.)
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Edited Sep 25, 2014  Professional Writer
A singular "they" would have the same effect as "s/he" and be a lot less likely to run the risk of being offensive.  So, if you're worried about offending people, but wanna refer to Kylie in a gender neutral way, I recommend, they/them/their as a singular pronoun.  Most of the genderqueer and genderfluid people I know prefer that to anything else.  ^_^
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8947jts Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014
Thanks for that, I don't know anybody in real life that are anything but cis and straight (That I know of) and the internet can't portray tone very well. 
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Ryu890 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2012
Oooooh. Been there before. It ALWAYS sucks to be the one left out.
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UsagiKnight Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
I like it when Rudy shruggs his shoulders, he actually looks kind of cute like that.

But anyway, I don't believe there is a right way without causing some friction. I mean telling someone something important like that is not your place to do and should be the responsibility of the person in question. But knowing me, if I feel comfortable around this person enough I would say "my friend has something really serious going on and its best to talk to her about it when she feels comfortable." But who knows what someone like Ky would do if he heard that, he may just outwardly confront Rain about her issues and my suffer a couple of scraps and burns before they realize they are both in a similar situation. But hey, anything you can do for a friend I guess, even if it means sharing them in the pain of even having a secret.

Again, another good and somewhat thought provoking page (even if it was from commentary)
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
*Sees Gavin's face in panel 4* Wait, has he been a Ditto this whole time?

Seriously, though, this page goes deeper into both the Rain-is-under-a-lot-of-pressure and Kylie-knows-something-is-up arcs. Rain's still upset at Rudy, so she won't listen to him, even when he's just trying to help. I've got to feel sorry for Rudy in all of this; he admires Rain and wants to be a good friend, but she takes everything he does the wrong way. Also, it's interesting that, in panel 2, her voice is in bold italics rather than the usual italics. This might suggest that her voice is slipping (due to all the stress), or it might just mean that she's talking loudly because she's frustrated.

Then Kylie pops in, continuing his investigation with Gavin and Rudy. They don't want to lie, but they also don't want to tell the truth, because they feel like they'd be betraying Rain. It's interesting to note how, even after Rudy almost revealed Rain's secret accidentally, he's not willing to reveal it when directly asked, showing his loyalty to Rain (plus, he's kind of in trouble with her as it is). Gavin also doesn't want to evoke the wrath of Rain, and he also feels very loyal to her - they were best friends, after all, and I get the feeling he wants to return to that sort of relationship. Unfortunately, this just leaves Kylie feeling confused and frustrated, and assuming the worst about Rain. I get the feeling that someone's going to get revealed this chapter... like, Kylie's going to hunt Rain down until she confesses, probably in private. Things are just working up towards a climax like that.

As for the question... honestly, I think Gavin and Rudy are doing the best they can in their position. They probably shouldn't lie to Kylie, but they don't want to reveal the truth (or even lead Kylie to the truth). That'd be a really bad position to be in (heck, I think EVERYONE's in a bad position this chapter), but Rain has to be the one to tell Kylie. I know she doesn't want to - it's not something she's comfortable with, and she's afraid she'll lose a friend - but it's the only way to keep herself from breakdown, and to keep Kylie as a friend. Dramatic irony, indeed.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Professional Writer
I'd like to point out that the bold italics is actually an accident. I totally never noticed I did that until you pointed it out right now. ^^;

That said, I'm going to leave it because I think it fits, given the situation. ^_^
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MicronConvoy Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Yeah it's definitely an awkward position to be in. I've learned that the best thing to do is shut the fuck up and explain to them its better that I do that. People are usually cool with that.
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