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RAIN p152 - Silent Treatment by JocelynSamara RAIN p152 - Silent Treatment by JocelynSamara
(Kinda earlyish post. Whatever. I'm here; it's ready. Let's do this.)

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I admit, I’d be ticked if I was Kylie too. Though I imagine Gavin and Rudy probably WANT to tell him. But how?

Besides, Rudy’s falling more and more in the doghouse with Rain lately, and doesn’t need to top it off with outing her (again, if you count Chapter 1). And Gavin spent the first four chapters trying to get OUT of the doghouse; surely, he doesn’t need to screw it up again now.

If you were in their position, how would you respond? Is there a right way to approach this that would appease Kylie and NOT devastate Rain?

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:iconarbysmcdouble:
arbysmcdouble Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Student General Artist
im laughing so hard "is she super close minded or something" like yes. that is exactly where your train of thought would go. of course
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8947jts Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014
Even if s/he couldn't read people (and Rain passed perfectly) just from the conversations s/hes heard Ky/lie probably could have connected the dots by now. I mean i've never been in this situation before but I probably would have. **SPOILER**(And if the 's/he's and 's/hes's are offensive to anybody in any way, I say it because Ky/lie is gender fluid rather than transgender or cisgender.)
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Edited Sep 25, 2014  Professional Writer
A singular "they" would have the same effect as "s/he" and be a lot less likely to run the risk of being offensive.  So, if you're worried about offending people, but wanna refer to Kylie in a gender neutral way, I recommend, they/them/their as a singular pronoun.  Most of the genderqueer and genderfluid people I know prefer that to anything else.  ^_^
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8947jts Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014
Thanks for that, I don't know anybody in real life that are anything but cis and straight (That I know of) and the internet can't portray tone very well. 
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:iconryu890:
Ryu890 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2012
Oooooh. Been there before. It ALWAYS sucks to be the one left out.
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UsagiKnight Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
I like it when Rudy shruggs his shoulders, he actually looks kind of cute like that.

But anyway, I don't believe there is a right way without causing some friction. I mean telling someone something important like that is not your place to do and should be the responsibility of the person in question. But knowing me, if I feel comfortable around this person enough I would say "my friend has something really serious going on and its best to talk to her about it when she feels comfortable." But who knows what someone like Ky would do if he heard that, he may just outwardly confront Rain about her issues and my suffer a couple of scraps and burns before they realize they are both in a similar situation. But hey, anything you can do for a friend I guess, even if it means sharing them in the pain of even having a secret.

Again, another good and somewhat thought provoking page (even if it was from commentary)
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
*Sees Gavin's face in panel 4* Wait, has he been a Ditto this whole time?

Seriously, though, this page goes deeper into both the Rain-is-under-a-lot-of-pressure and Kylie-knows-something-is-up arcs. Rain's still upset at Rudy, so she won't listen to him, even when he's just trying to help. I've got to feel sorry for Rudy in all of this; he admires Rain and wants to be a good friend, but she takes everything he does the wrong way. Also, it's interesting that, in panel 2, her voice is in bold italics rather than the usual italics. This might suggest that her voice is slipping (due to all the stress), or it might just mean that she's talking loudly because she's frustrated.

Then Kylie pops in, continuing his investigation with Gavin and Rudy. They don't want to lie, but they also don't want to tell the truth, because they feel like they'd be betraying Rain. It's interesting to note how, even after Rudy almost revealed Rain's secret accidentally, he's not willing to reveal it when directly asked, showing his loyalty to Rain (plus, he's kind of in trouble with her as it is). Gavin also doesn't want to evoke the wrath of Rain, and he also feels very loyal to her - they were best friends, after all, and I get the feeling he wants to return to that sort of relationship. Unfortunately, this just leaves Kylie feeling confused and frustrated, and assuming the worst about Rain. I get the feeling that someone's going to get revealed this chapter... like, Kylie's going to hunt Rain down until she confesses, probably in private. Things are just working up towards a climax like that.

As for the question... honestly, I think Gavin and Rudy are doing the best they can in their position. They probably shouldn't lie to Kylie, but they don't want to reveal the truth (or even lead Kylie to the truth). That'd be a really bad position to be in (heck, I think EVERYONE's in a bad position this chapter), but Rain has to be the one to tell Kylie. I know she doesn't want to - it's not something she's comfortable with, and she's afraid she'll lose a friend - but it's the only way to keep herself from breakdown, and to keep Kylie as a friend. Dramatic irony, indeed.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Professional Writer
I'd like to point out that the bold italics is actually an accident. I totally never noticed I did that until you pointed it out right now. ^^;

That said, I'm going to leave it because I think it fits, given the situation. ^_^
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MicronConvoy Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
Yeah it's definitely an awkward position to be in. I've learned that the best thing to do is shut the fuck up and explain to them its better that I do that. People are usually cool with that.
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dolphin64575 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Now I kinda feel bad for Rudy... And guys, just tell Ky that it's not your place to say!
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Annihilare Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Student Artist
I..WANT..MOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAARRR!!!!
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Suki-chan36 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
While I can understand that Rain is really stressed and such right now, I really don't think that Rudy deserves to be treated this way. He didn't dress as Ruby for Halloween to offend or upset her or anything - quite the opposite, in fact. He thinks she's really cool, and likely did this as a gesture of appreciation (so to speak). Now, if only he had a chance to EXPLAIN himself....

I also feel it worthy to note that I am not trying to bash Rain at all. I think she's a really neat character, and I quite like that she has flaws - namely this one.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Professional Writer
I'm glad you appreciate that. Rain is not perfect. She's really an average teenager, just like 90% of the rest of the cast. And as I've once said to someone else earlier on in this comic: this is one of the reasons I love writing teenage characters. There's so much room for them grow and learn and develop throughout a story. As such, sometimes even Rain will be wrong, despite that (or especially because) she's the main character.
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Student Writer
I would probably do the same kind of thing, or say to Kylie that i can't tell you why. I still think that Kylie will find out eventually and vis versa. Yeah and both Gavin and Rudy are trying to repair their relationship with Rain. Rudy should just say that he wasn't trying to annoy her and that he sorry something like that. I have the feeling that Rain will find Maria over Todd beat up body and then Kylie will come in.
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LittleWolfDreamer Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Professional Writer
Rudy looked like he was gonna apologize :(

Poor Kylie
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VioletUke93 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Do you need to be careful to not make Rain too bitchy. Otherwise she'd just appear as a brat. Why? Because she hasn't exactly been given shit for being trans.
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chucarnaj-peace Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
wow poor Kylie they understand each other but dont know
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maruul Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
I would tell him it's not that, but that I couldn't say what it was.
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SilenceIzumi Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
I second the motions to keep Rudy >.> she's kinda cute.
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:iconboichick:
BoiChick Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
-hugs Kylie- D:
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VioletUke93 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope Rain doesnt end up ruining the party by flipping out, if it majes her confess by accident that is.
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ivanprz Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I would tell ky that Rain has a relative that is transgendered (just as if Rain was Aunt Fara) it would still be understandable that she's mad, if she really thinks that Rudy being cosplaying as a girl is an insult to her being transgerdered it will be the same to someone else being transgendered.
(I still think she SHOULDNT be mad)
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runningbull731 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
GAH!!!! When is Kylie going to find out!!! Its killing me!!!
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:iconnelekra:
Nelekra Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
Aww. that'd be awkward.
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seeker-of-revelation Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
"No, she's not closed-minded, she just thinks that Rudy crossdressing as a joke is offensive to people who are actually transgendered." Problem solved without giving Rain's secret away. I'd just rob all the drama out of any plot if I was a webcomic character. ;p
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NevermoreFox Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"But, that still doesn't explain why she is so pissed. Is she transgendered herself?"

Boom, Instant drama.
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seeker-of-revelation Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Pfft.

"What, you think that anybody who doesn't want to offend members of the transgendered community must be transgendered themselves? What a terribly unenlightened attitude. Frankly, I expected better from you."
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
Poor Kylie..... and Rain..... and well, just everyone. There seems to be multiple misunderstandings/confusion everywhere at this party.
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Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
poor Kylie, i cant say how i would react in that situation
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I think Rudy is a friggin adorable girl, can we keep Rudy like this? Like seriously can we? I'll feed him and take him for walks and I can assume he's already toilet trained so I don't need to worry about that because I imagine that'd be fairly awkward. So can we?
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adragonknight Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
i say we kidnap him and then we can care for him after that.
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
That's just... THAT'S GENIUS!!! Alright we need a plan... something involving burlap sacks and fake mustaches...
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:iconadragonknight:
adragonknight Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011
ok. you sneak up behind him with a large burlap sack whilst i distract him, and then we run of.

and they will never find us in a remote village in italy cause they will search on hawaii as thats were everyon else goes.
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
No! It needs to be Sicily, when they try looking in European countries they'll look in Italy but totally over look Sicily! Besides I'm Half-Sicilian and I've been there before so I know all the great hiding spots, also I manage to fill the stereotype fairly well so we'll fit right in!
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adragonknight Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011
great, then we just need the tickets and an explanetion for the airport for why our luggage is so big, and noisy.
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
We'll tell them "Oh it's just a adorable high school kid we're kidnapping because he's adorable" and they'll assume we're joking and find us so funny they let us pass and then when we get through A-OK because we're the funniest people they've ever met so we obviously can't be doing anything bad we have an epic high-five then go wait for the plane. I believe it's fool proof is it not?
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adragonknight Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
*puts on mustach and distracts rudy* em excuse me but what time is it now?

*signals to Doomdragon to kidnap rudy*
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COMPUTERMANMIK428 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
wow non of them know it yet.
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:iconpuddintane:
puddintane Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Student General Artist
YAY FOR EARLY POSTS!
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SissyDemi Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hehe poor Kylie ... so clueless. Is it sad I am amused by her cluelessness in all of this?
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