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RAIN p144 - Lord of Nightmares by JocelynSamara RAIN p144 - Lord of Nightmares by JocelynSamara
(Hey, DA suddenly allows longer deviation titles! I never used to be allowed to make titles like that.)

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The thing I think we’re most interested in on this page is the segment of “Halloween Princess Pandora”. This is easily the most out-of-place thing to ever appear in this comic to date. Much like the Kaminari references a few chapters ago, this has its significance. You’re free to determine it however you wish though. ^_^

As an aside, I initially intended to have Aidyn (the samurai costume in the previous two pages) talking to Maria here. It felt a little detached for him suddenly go and BS about anime immediately after Rudy and Drew’s little scene though, so I inserted this other little known character instead. Chanel was originally intended to be more of sports person, but I guess she’s now an anime-loving sports person. Not as planned, but I’m willing to run with it.

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Scorpomix97 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi again Chanel! (waves again)
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thediremoose Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Awww, foreshadowing.
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Matthew4475 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
I love how this somewhat forgettable page ends up being a huge instance of foreshadowing. Jocelyn's so clever like that.
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Ryu890 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2012
:D I do that thing too! "Speaking of *current subject*, *some other unrelated subject*." Occasionally worth a short chuckle. :P
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Brixmon Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2011
Hmm... That "Lord of Nightmares" looks a little like Nightmare, which is a Metroid Fusion boss...
Well, it sort of does.
HERE IS WIKITROID ENTRY
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Wiinner159 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
I have to disagree with you on that one 2 years in the past Brixmon, only simularity I can find is they somewhat have a similar shape, and also, putting a link to a page with Nightmare's face to be seen isn't exactly something you'd just throw around, it's too putrid to display
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UsagiKnight Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Did Chanel appear in something else, the way you describe it it seemed like she did? But than again how ofter do we find reusing characters anyway. But I have to admit I enjoy the camo look on darker skinned people.

Also love how Pandora is ment as more of a reflection of Maria. That hidden behind her responsible and sometimes concerned exterior their is a somewhat untamable rage and even desire for expression. Such the same as Kaminari represents Rain's sense of rejection, Pandora is Maria's desire to be heard. In someway its so simple, but it is truth. Also loved how you put so much care into your extras, you didn't have to show Pandora's battle with the Lord of Nightmares, but without it I don't think Pandorawouldn't have been as important to Maria. What self respecting otaku can't name every episode and favorite quote from their favorite anime by heart afterall. So it really was a step toward making it e best it can.

Also love your design for the Lord of Nightmares, kind of Giygas-y interms that he is a form that can't be comprehended by human hearts, and yet we don't question it. And enjoy the metal mask as a way of giving him an apperience of self mutilation, but still with a grin like it is the most fun it will ever have. Also love the slight Disgaea presentation as he speaks like you would expect from an underworld king while still being mocked by your well loved hell bound hero with an attitude.
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011
I was very disappointed with this page! It's titled "Lord of Nightmares", but our favorite Dark Lord Norman fails to make a showing!

Seriously, though, this page is Chanel's biggest appearance so far in "Rain". Previously, she's been little more than a stock character, but here she receives some characterization. We see that, much like several of the main heroes, she's an HPP fan. We also learn that she and Maria don't know one another, but that they both know Todd. Of course, even with Chanel present, the star of the page is really Maria. Not only is she the one in the costume, but she's also the one whom the plot is going to follow, after all is said and done. Presumably, an upcoming page will show her cracking Todd Bittner in the face with her scepter. I very much look forward to this.

I do, however, have a point of continuity complaint. Gavin dropped Todd's name in page 126, which was set in mid-September. Has Maria really waited over a month to enact justice, when they both go to the same (small) school? Is she trying to ruin Emily's party? (that was only halfway rhetorical, as it sounds like something she might actually do). Still, I can see how something like this functions well for the plot; you did want to condense as much as possible into the party, and what's more dramatic than a fight at a party? I guess I'll just have to suspend my disbelief a bit (all good works require it, at times!).

Artisticly, this page is unique in that it combines the fuzzy overworld style with the thin-line story-in-the-story style. "Unique" may not be the right word, as this technique has been used before, for the Kaminari pages and a previous page featuring Pandora. It helps to distinguish between the two settings, kind of like how thought bubbles always have fuzzy edges. Oh, and the half-face shot of Pandora in panel 4 is really awesome.

Overall, this is another good page. It brings deeper detail to a side character, and it promises to open up a new story arc. Very promising, indeeed.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011  Professional Writer
It may delight you to know that there is a perfectly legitimate reason for Maria's extended wait for this confrontation. I can't tell you what it is yet (due to spoilers), but I want you to know this wasn't just an oversight on my part.

I always think every minute little detail through. I'm a details person, I am. :nod:
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011
You mean like the address on Emily's invitations? ;) (That's right, don't think that I've forgotten!)

Seriously, though, one thing I really like is how much detail you put into your writing, so that situations "work together" phenomenally. Kind of like in this chapter, with the "gay pirate" joke. Or how you used "Kaminari" in chapter 3 to represent the main characters I MEAN what there was no symbolism there what are you talking about...

So, sorry for the pre-emptive doubts! I should've known you have something planned for this... and I look forward to finding out what it is!
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dolphin64575 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
oh no i imagine a Todd-Maria-Rudy showdown and the angel bitch whose name i can't remember (I know it's not Priss) throws Rudy and Maria out and Rain, Gavin, and Ky leave as well.
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Kleptoid Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
wow he's cute o 0
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ivanprz Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Student Digital Artist
who's todd??? :confused:
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Professional Writer
Todd's only really been alluded to for the most part (he's shown in the first panel here, but not named [link]), but he's a bully that tends to give Rudy a hard time [link] , making him public enemy number one for a certain overprotective older sister [link] .
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ivanprz Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Student Digital Artist
oh I get it now, lol
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chihuahua0 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Student Writer
Apparently Maria hasn't given up on extracting her sistery affection to Rudy onto Todd.
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DasZepto Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
"You're into Pandora then?"
"Yup, REMINDS ME A' NAM"
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yournamehere47547376 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Yay, my costume idea for Chanel was chosen! :D
And she looks really cool in it, too, haha. :giggle:

I'd say poor Todd, but that kid deserves what's coming to him.
~Rage
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Student Writer
Well i guess we can guess what's going to happen to Todd, he better hope that he's wearing a mask because after Maria is done with him he's going to need it.
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
It's probably best to keep her away from anyone who has a weapon with they're costume, cause Todd might not survive otherwise.
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Student Writer
True.
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Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
lol thats pretty cool, i like that Pandora stuff you put in there. makes her seem badass and something i would watch if it were real. and hey, Chanel can love both sports and anime, no big deal there
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KirukaChan Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
As much as face shots are nice, Maria should find out if Heather has stairs in her house before she makes Todd-related plans.
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Do you mean Emily? This is Emily's party, after all. And judging by the size of the house, I'd say it does have stairs. Then again, I wouldn't be too shocked if it had an elevator instead. Or an escalator: like stairs, but way more fun.

And if you're proposing that Maria push Todd down a flight of stairs, I would definitely support this plan.
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KirukaChan Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
FFFFFF, yes I mean Emily.

And yes, I do propose that Maria push Todd down a flight of stairs. Space has a terrible power.
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Animasword Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh cool my half suggestion got the most votes (I can remeber if it was me or the other guy who posted the idea first), but back on topic, if that scene from HPP puts Maria on that trail of thought then Todd will be in for the beating of his lie...if he's lucky...
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LittleWolfDreamer Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
Chanel, huh? Hmm...
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
In the 3rd panel the Lord of Nightmares didn't dialouge, if he did it would probably have been

YO DAWG WAZZUP!! I'M IN YO NIGHTMARES TRYING TO KILL YOU MANG! SQUIDDLY DEE SQUIDDLY DOO!!

Actually that's what I do when I voice over the Chiroptorens in Blood+.... OH MY GOD HE'S A CHIROPTOREN!!!
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Nericlak Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Squiddly... from the Furthest Ring? Also, I warned you about stairs bro.
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Doomdragon Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
No idea, the guy IS wearing a mask so it's possible...
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apsm Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Remind me, who's Todd again? And why is Maria interested in meeting him?
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
Todd's only really been alluded to for the most part (he's shown in the first panel here, but not named [link]), but he's a bully that tends to give Rudy a hard time [link] , making him public enemy number one for a certain overprotective older sister [link] .
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Werewolf-Hero Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
This new girl is cute who is she?
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
Uh, I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but...

Are you, by chance, referring to Chanel with the arrow pointing to her revealing her name? Or Pandora, whom Maria's costume is based off of (and named on this page)?
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Werewolf-Hero Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
well I meant the first one hoping to get a little more info on her

but since you bring up the other both would be nice
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
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Werewolf-Hero Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Sorry thought she was a new face
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Q9R42 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Next thing you're going to tell me that that other minor character likes chess AND Go.. ;O
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
Just for that, yes. Rob and Drew have a small friendly competitive nature between them. Sometimes they might compete at Chess, and sometimes Go. And Checkers. And Chinese Checkers. And Sorry. And Connect Four. And Roshambo.

But, uh... mostly Chess and Go. ^_^
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Now by "Roshambo", do you mean "Rock Paper Scissors", or the... other version? The former sounds more believable, but the latter would make for a much more... interesting page.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
I'm referring to "Rock-Paper-Scissors". But I wouldn't put it past them to try the other version either. Incidentally, it's always the first thing to come to my mind when I hear the word. ^^;
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LittleWolfDreamer Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Writer
That is awesome sounding. So awesome sounding.
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