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RAIN p116 - Eye by JocelynSamara RAIN p116 - Eye by JocelynSamara
(Posting a couple hours early, in the hopes that some good comments will cheer me up a little.)

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Being gay (or trans) and out in a school environment can be potentially dangerous. There are always bullies of varying degrees no matter what school you go to. To make matters worse, in some very real schools (like ones where addressing issues of homosexuality is forbidden by teachers and students alike, or ones - like in the case of this comic - where homosexuality is actually a bigger offense than assaulting someone), sometimes thereís really nowhere to turn. My heart goes out to any kids out there stuck in such a situation.

And for what itís worth, youíve actually seen Todd before.
See first panel here: [link]

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Rain, all characters and all other aspects of the story are copyright material belonging to me.
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VixTheNinthFox Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
if i was in a school such as this, as shy and non-confrontational as i am, i'm still one to stick up for kids (i was bullied all the way through to half way through highschool i only got out of it by being too strange for them to have any fun) i'd rather get beat up myself then let other kids take it ^^
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tucraz Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Bullies. A major part of why I wound up dropping out of  school and finishing my diploma at the local college. And I wasn't even out as gay or bi or even pan. The problem was being a late bloomer with light colored hair so that it looked like I shaved my legs, coupled with my love for purple and tie-dyed clothing.
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positronic-brain Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is why I'm not out at school. And it's also why I'm waiting till I finish high school to start transitioning.
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Fairportfan Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2013
Over in "El Goonish Shive", Justin (who was accidentally outed by a friend in junior high) was rescued from a beating by Elliott (who is a black belt in Anime Style Martial Arts) and has crushed on him ever since, though he keeps it undercover pretty well.
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wolf-blazer Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2011  Student Interface Designer
well, then gavin gonna go 2 times ^^
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UsagiKnight Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
looking at the link, I now remember Todd, didn't think he had a bigger part in the story than that. But it will definitely be interesting to hear him speak for the first time.

this is also interesting, though you delt with misunderstandings of homo/transexuality, this is the first time you dealt with violence in the subject. Considering that this was coming up, I was amazed that people went as far as considered Gavin as evil. Oblivious that he never really hit Rain for it. In essence, this really is the true start of the story. Though I'm amazed Rudy is smiling even though he understands that telling on him and having his ass kicked would only back fire on him. It really is a sad situation, and to be honest. This was the only real reason I was happy to graduate.
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coffinstufferd Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011
:( that sucks. but it makes me like Rudy all the more because of his reaction to it.
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themusicmarionette Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011   Writer
I guess I'm really lucky to go to the school I'm at- probably the most accepting school in the history of... well, ever.
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Dinadan-Ermorfea Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Respct to Rudy for handling it so well. I know from personal experience how painful bullying can be (albiet not over sexuality isssues - dread to think how bad it'd have been if I'd been out back when I was in school >.<), and I think it's disgusting how little can be done to counter bullying :angered:
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whitefox00 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
My school is basically the exact opposite of that. :) If anyone gives me the slightest trouble, they get hammered really hard, not only by other students, but by the faculty. It's nice, feeling that I have someone on my side, because I've dealt with some of that shit before. Never anything physical, thankfully, but it still happens now when I'm walking around by myself (I go to a community college). They're always afraid to say anything when I'm with another person, or they just say it loudly (always in groups) behind my back.
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Student Writer
Well its definitely something that must be considered because it is something that really happens. unfortunately there are people that just don't understand or don't really want to understand and hurt people that are trans or gay that want i like about Rain it is comical at times but also covers that serious stuff.
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OrangeDemi Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i had the whole "wtf" armour going for me in highschool. only got in trouble once for wearing a dress and i able to get away with it do to the fact i had pants on. XD

side note wtf armour is also know as the great confuser paradyme (as featured in the mighty boosh!)
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DivineValley Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011
-rips phone book in half- How dare somebody touch Rudy!!!! They will pay for this!!! >:l
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Animasword Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Rudy smiling in the fact of such hostility is what makes him such a likeable character in my eyes (although it does make me wonder if there's anything in this world that can break him..and do I even want to see it?), nice update.
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KirukaChan Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
...Theory. What if Todd himself is gay, but is so tsundere that all he can do when he sees Rudy is punch him?
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pikaman6 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
lol "I'll give you some of mine." Awesome line! :)
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Suki-chan36 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
No, Rudy!!!!!!! Please be okay!!!! =(

This page really struck a chord with me. Seeing Rudy treat something so hateful as an everyday occurrence just... hurts.
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Wow, the first serious swear! Bitchin'!

Seriously, though, this is the first page to feature just Gavin and Rudy since their time in the mall together. It helps us see a bit more of their personalities and their relationship. We get to see Rudy's resilience; even though he described having to deal with bullies in chapter 2, this is the first time it shows up in the presence. They may be able to beat Rudy up, but they can't break his spirit. Rudy is permanently optimistic and good-humored ["Why? You like it?"] , despite what those around him may do or say. As for Gavin, his protective instinct towards Rudy is mentioned, if not demonstrated. Gavin is almost like an older brother to Rudy; while he sometimes feels pestered by him, I feel like Gavin would put himself at risk to protect him (though probably not to the extent that Maria would ["your sister will... and she'll murder him."]). They form the only significant male-male relationship so far in "Rain", and I think they have a strong one.

Artistically, I like the effect of Rudy's bruise (although I don't like the fact that he has one!). It's not gruesome, but it is certainly noticeable. It doesn't exactly look like the conventional "black eye", but it is clearly a bruise. Also, I like the elevation of font size in Gavin's speech bubble in panel 2. To a certain extent, I think it's more effective at expressing exclamation than added punctuation would be. It's much like the use of italics in Rain's speech, the use of smaller font to express a whisper, or the use of different speech bubbles to represent telephone talk. Even the minor details can make a major difference.

On a personal note... it really is disappointing to see Rudy being targeted and attacked for who he is. I'm fortunate enough to have gone to a school where there were no major bullying problems (or if there were, I was never aware of them). Still, bullies bother me in any shape and form, and I hope Todd gets taught a lesson (either the easy way or the fun way... did I say fun? I meant hard.). As for the storyline, I like how you were able to interspear this bit of Rudy's daily experience within the whole Halloween party arc.

Anyway, another awesome page! I look forward to readin more! (Heck, by this point, this should be my signature).
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Professional Writer
First swear? Really? I'm almost certain all of the "bad words" on this page have been uttered before.

Truthfully, my experience in high school was kind of disturbing, but not for the reason you might expect. You see, I went to a private Catholic school (hence the setting in this comic) for some years, but I finished high school in public school. And the bullying was SO bad in Catholic school. SO bad. And teachers would do nothing, because the bullies were usually on teams and they couldn't risk their star players.

But in public school? I dunno. Some kids smoked cigarettes in the bathroom; that was seriously the worst thing I'd ever seen. I'd even been offered one like all those ads on TV warned about. I said "no". He said "okay". We both went on our merry ways. Bullying? What bullying?

Really, I always found the contrast deeply disturbing. I know that's not the case everywhere, but I guess my experience was very unique.

(That'd make a fun sig, but if you comment anywhere else, they might be very confused. :XD:)
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14bj337 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011
Yay! I have 100 feedback messages! (replies to this one, count drops to 99). FUUU-

Hm... you're probably right about the swearing. Then again, who are the people going to trust? The well-respected and widely-watched author of "Rain", or some weirdo who spends an hour a day constructing a lengthy and overworded comment in a feeble attempt to live through the characters (as he obviously has no life of his own).

Ahem. Anyway...
Ouch, I'm sorry to hear that your school was full of bullies! It makes me wonder what people are paying for in private schools. Then again, it might not be a public-private issue; it might all depend on the individual school (having never gone to private school, though, I can't say anything from experience). Still, it's good to hear that you got away from the bullies. No one deserves to get bullied... except maybe the bullies themsel- OH NO A PARADOX.

All in all, I like how realistic you make "Rain" to be, how you deal with real-world issues. And it's good that you draw on personal thoughts and experiences - I think that's important for any author (Sometimes the author's notes are as enjoyable as the page itself!). And as usual, thanks for writing! I'm always looking forward to the next page! (I mean, where else would I look? Backward? That direction's no fun...).
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16bithero1995 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Ah memories. And also predictions...
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PrincessJessica Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
ooh, poor Rudy.
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dracocustos Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Aww, poor Rudy! I just want to reach into the comic and give him a hug. :c I know exactly how he feels, I got beaten up at school a lot for being gay and now being openly trans has made life difficult. Still better than lying about who I am though. :3
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On2XSecretProbation Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Rudy's reaction is probably the most sensible one...despite my wanting to head butt this Todd so hard it shatters his face. But Rudy's right it's not worth it to give these kinds of people the time of day let alone waste a perfectly good head butt on them. What they really want is attention and they don't care if it is positive or negitive...but people like Todd probably know that in that kind of school environment the attention would be more likely to be of the former than the latter...which is sad.

But as time goes on there will be less and less places like that. And hopefully those people that still have hate in their hearts will be treated with the kindness and tolerance that they have been unable to show.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Being different in general sucks in high school (junior high more so for me). I got in my share of fights over guys giving me a hard time.

If I may give some advice for anyone willing to listen: never EVER give them the satisfaction of making you miserable, make sure they know that if they're serious that a fight with you will get ugly. Make it clear that you're willing to get hurt to make them hurt, in short make them believe you've got nothing to loose.
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BoiChick Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
I've never had horrible reactions. I mean, some asshole outed me (as bisexual, which was inaccurate) in 8th grade way before I was ready, and told some girls I liked them; which were lies, but they stared at me in the locker room for WEEKS. Asked me if I was checking them out. Pff.

Only once has anyone given me any shit for using the guys' bathroom at school, and she was taken care of in a few minute's conversation.

I feel terrible for people have it worse, though. People generally don't give a shit if I'm gay or trans, because I don't grope them and I'm not bothering them. o_o
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chihuahua0 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Student Writer
That's the problem with middle school. Kids are so homophobic at that time.
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BoiChick Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2011
It really is. There were a few people that were okay, but it's nowhere near as good as the high school. You do have a few homophobic assholes, but at my school, you can see giant-ass "thug" looking people sporting LGBT pride accessories. I once came out to junior who was around 6'6" and a sport nut, and he was fantastic about it. Maybe that's just a case of "appearances may be deceiving".
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COMPUTERMANMIK428 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
that's missed up.
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Akira37 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
I love rudy so much....I wanna rip out todd's throat with my teeth now
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Rip his throat out with your teeth?! Are you crazy?!!!!!! That'd probably taste nasty, I recommend gauging his eyes out with a spoon instead =D
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Akira37 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Why would it taste nasty? Unless bad personalities also mean bad taste...
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Well it would probably be really bloody and there might be a mix of what he ate that day come back into his throat. If you got it in your mouth it might taste bad, but if you don't care then by all means, go ahead :)
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Akira37 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Don't care about the blood that much...I've tasted much worse before
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
not gonna ask what you tasted before, but give him a black eye before you rip his throat out so he knows how Rudy felt k?
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Akira37 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
how would I do that? Fighting with fists isn't my thing...
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011
.... free a gorilla from the zoo when he's near by? :O_o:
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Chicken-Yuki Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011   Traditional Artist
Oh, when I saw Rudy's black eye, I thought Ann from HM64 struck again!

Oh, Ann and her dealing of black eyes to people out of spite...

...

Seriously, Gavin was shoved a whole bunch of flyers at once?
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Professional Writer
Gavin did indeed recieve many flyers. [link]

Perhaps not really a few dozen, but he is kind of a sarcastic bastard. It wouldn't be uncommon for him to drop a hyperbole to make his point. ^_^
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Chicken-Yuki Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011   Traditional Artist
Either way, "Ann" shall be Todd's new nickname.

So, unless you introduce an actual character named Ann, I hope you understand who I mean should I bring up the female name... ^^;
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louisdragon109 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
todd's and assholish bastard!

he would go well with emily *still not liking her*
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011
Come on, even Emily's not that bad. I mean sure she seems manipulative and evil, but she hasn't hurt anyone.
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louisdragon109 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
stereotypically she's the worst a girl could do and same thing goes for todd todd is more physically and emily is psychologically but they are just as bad and the other
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011
I get what you're saying, it was just the fact that I haven't actually seen Emily go after anyone yet, that I wouldn't pair her up with Todd, at least at the moment.
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louisdragon109 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
still have a bad feeling about her and something is bound to happen
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011
You're probably right about that.
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louisdragon109 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
there are too much stereotypes in this girl for it not to mean anything XD
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chitttick1 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011
true XD
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