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RAIN p101 - Why? by JocelynSamara RAIN p101 - Why? by JocelynSamara
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Kind of a jumpy transition from the last scene, but itís worth noting that if theyíre both dressed and Gavinís even shaved, then time must have passed. I feel itís also worth noting that it apparently doesnít take long after playtime is over the two to get right back into their trans debates. Sans distractions, I guess it was inevitable.

Gavinís latest inquiry is also based on a question Iíve been asked in real life, but not by any one other person. Rather, itís a question Iíve asked myself. Realistically, the interests I (and Rain) generally have are those that are largely unaffected by physical sex. I could still do all of the things I love whether I was a man or a woman (writing, drawing, gaming, etc.) and it really wouldnít make a lick of difference. So, why is it such an ever-present problem in my life?

Food for thought aside, this is probably the first time Rain has actually challenged Gavin right back. Up until now, sheís played nice and taken it. The last two panels however, possess a subtle hint of venom. Perhaps sheís just more fatigued then she thought. Or perhaps, sheís just tired of his prying. Or maybe itís particularly the fact that 6+ hours it didnít matter, but now it suddenly is again. Whatever the case may be, it seems to have shut Gavin up for the time beingÖ

Though they did have a period of bonding, their friendship still clearly needs a lot of workÖ

Rain, all characters and all other aspects of the story are copyright material belonging to me.
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natedogith1 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
I'm glad to know that questioning why you are the way you are is a normal thing, it helps to assuage my fears and to hopefully prevent too much self-psychoanalysis .
Tanail Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Why does the body matter?
That's also a question i'm asking myself. I think everyone can do what they want and dress like they want, so why the hell does it matter to me that i have a male and not a female body?
I'm still at the very beginning though. Just a month ago i acknowledged that i may be trans (i'm pretty sure right now but it's all a wild up and down of feelings, so i'm not sure).
And right now i don't have an answer to that question.

BTW, i love your comic so far <3 There are just so many scenes where i see myself or remember something, plus it's really funny ^_^
Ryu890 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012
:) Thats why its so hard to explain to people....why. The best I've come up with is "Emotions don't make sense. You can't explain happiness with Math. And can you honestly give me an objective reason as to why I enjoy the taste of apples?"
UsagiKnight Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2011  Student Traditional Artist

Outburst out of the way. Rain's feeling on her dysphoria I totally agree with. Though this is something important to us, we also have that feeling that we wish we can just stop. But at the same time, we know if we leave that feeling alone it would just fester. But than again it goes back to what you mentioned before about just wanting to be happy as opposed to wanting to be the opposite gender. But this is a more personal question in that it is hard to personify a feeling or even a reason why we do anything. Even though we are talking gender, we might as well go to way you don't eat until 12pm and 6pm as opposed to 7am, 11am, and 7pm. As well as why you are so concerned having long sleeves in hot weather. It pretty much is like you have to just accept things no matter how different they are from what you do. But i guess I explained this before, but its always good to cover all the ways that question can be asked as to narrow down your true feelings. And through that we understand why Gavin even cares that Ryan has turned female. That at the very beginning he saw girls as girls, knowing that girls didn't start out as girls was an act of undertanding that he probably just wasn't ready for. But seeing how he asked the question on this page as opposed to the previous pages, it does show he became more of a man and a friend in the end.
Dodinator Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
umm... I have a question
If gavin already knows that rain is a guy why does she keep dressing like a girl in the privacy of gavin's house
because rain isn't totally female yet is she?... so surely she doesn't dress like a women sometimes like when shes sleeping or when they're just playing video games?

I might just be nitpicking here... sorry about that :blahblah:
thediremoose Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Because, psychologically speaking, Rain is female and it would make no more sense for her to dress like a guy than it would for Maria to do the same.

And a few strips ago, Rain mentioned that she prefers to sleep in a nightgown.
maruul Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2011
Wha?! No! Need mooore! ;-;
Following you now. Not in a stalkerish way of course. Well, maybe...
chitttick1 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011
I think that maybe (this is just a slight opinion) that the answer to the question might have to do with stereotypes. The largest form of stereotyping in the world, is the one between genders. Made probably by the way the majority of girls or boys act, so that what you're born as puts you in either stereotype for a gender. And acting like that stereotype is what makes you the most socially accepted. So maybe if a person's set of mind or general behavior is enough like the opposite gender, then in order to fit in society, they have to make a choice. That choice being "Do you want to fit in with males or females?", and the person's feeling more like the other gender, might make them have the desire to change themselves physically in order tho fit in more properly with the other gender, and be able to live their life feeling more like they belong.... Kind of like finding the loophole in society and deciding "If I can't fit here with the way I am, then I'll make myself fit where I want to be and do what I have to."
It would be the same for everyone else, but where they decided to fit themselves with the gender they were born, simply because they relate better to their original stereotype.

Because one of human kind's biggest fear, is rejection, so we fit in one way or another in order for society not to reject us, while still being happy where we are.
HiSenshi Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist

Hehehes, sorries...I just LOVE this pairing! <3 ^^ /

~ Hi-chan <3
Animasword Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This page certainly contains a lot of interesting material for those who like to do character studies.
Personally, I kind of like this hidden element of Rain's character. I like to think that Rain hides a lot of bitterness and frustration about what she has to go through behind a smile and cheerful attitude, which she also uses to try and keep her spirits up, but every once in a while a slip of tounge reveals some of the things that have been going on in her mind.
Heck, this isn't the first time either, look at the ending scene with Fara with chapter 1 (or was it chapter 2? I can never remember) where she snaps at Fara, which leads me to believe that it's just a moments weakness rather than venom or spite. In my mind, Rain's last words aren't her saying she doesn't want to hear her answer, but more of an apology for letting on her darker thoughts slip out without thinking. It's a sign that there's alot more going on in Faith's head than her cute innocent (almost moe) actions would have you believe.
In short, nice update ^_^
DylanKRyan Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011
"Look who finally shaved" Pffffft, hahaha.
majorkerina Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011  Student Writer
I still like my theory Gavin had a crush on boy Rain ^^.
CrystalLoveMaster Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Wow simply amazing, very surprising.
Tanooki-Tom Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
...Whoa. That was very...forward (is that the right word?) for Rain. I never expected a response like that from her.
A nice surprise from her character, color me impressed.
Athils Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
Friends of mine have asked about this before. Some have even made the point that I could dress and act however I wanted regardless of sex or gender. It finally dawned on me to ask them if they would be okay with being seen as an effeminate guy in girls' clothes for the rest of their lives, especially as the male body aged. The "learn 2 love urself" advice I've had to listen to at least a hundred times from people who didn't get it does not help when I don't even feel like myself. It's not just that I'm not pretty, it's that I not even in the social and biological category where I want to belong, just kind of in between them right now.

I don't think a lot of people get that identity isn't self-contained. It's formed at least partially from the observations and reactions of other people. If nobody sees you the way you want to see yourself, you're going to be really unhappy no matter what the problem is. That's kind of the core of the transsexual nightmare, or just mine, anyway.
Venathil-Matura Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
Good counterquestion, Rain.

"Why does it matter for me whether I'm a boy or a girl?" it's a question I often asked myself too

Scientific theories aside - I don't really know myself either, I just noticed that are a lot of things which are "typically male" and which I personally can't understand or relate too, while I can relate to things which are "typically female". Additionally it's the fact that I'm mostly female in my dreams and I think it's the sum of all the things which somehow prove that I "can't" be male aside from my heavy dislike of having a male body.

It still feels like I didn't fully answer the question for myself, but probably to a high degree.



It was so weird to see Gavin shaved o.o
RandomGuyC Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
I liked Gavin better before he shaved...same goes to Rain, I want to see her with the Robin Williams beard back on page 85!
14bj337 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
Who is this new, beardless, blue-shirted character? He seems familiar, but I just can't place my finger on him...
Seriously, though, this page is at once a continuation of the serious discussion between Rain and Gavin several pages back and a turn in a new direction. Once again, Gavin asks Rain a direct and meaningful question, but this is the first time where Rain turns the question back at him. I love how Rain's head is turned away in the fifth and sixth panels; this leaves her facial expressions, and by extension her tone of speech, up to the imagination. The fact that "you" is capitalized and emboldened may suggest that Rain is pushing back kind of hard, although I can't say for sure that she does so with spite, bitterness, or "venom". When she tells Gavin that he doesn't have to answer her, is she just trying to protect him from an awkward situation, is she giving him time to think about it for himself, or is she saying that his answer doesn't matter to her? This page really leaves the reader wondering just where their relationship is at, and how far they have to go.
I think Gavin's question, and Rain's response, can be extended beyond the field of gender identity. It is the very question of why we are what we are. The most common, and perhaps most correct, response is that we simply don't know. I have some deviant qualities of my own, the origins of which I haven't a clue. Why do some people fit the norm while others are unable to? Rain doesnt' know, and neither does Gavin. Rain has an acceptance of that which is not understood; hopefully, Gavin will also be able to develop such an acceptance.
Yet another very deep page, and yet another development in Rain and Gavin's new-forming relationship. I love reading ones like this.
KirukaChan Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
It matters because it's like Gavin's brain is a tree, and Rain is those little cookie elves. If Rain was still Ryan, it wouldn't have gone down like that.

Gavin's not gonna say that though, cuz he's too tsundere.
Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Student Writer
You bring up a very interesting question in the world for the most part there are two sexes that of a man and that of a women. However i think that putting people into two genders is wrong because nobody is really just one gender no matter how they try they will have tendencies of the other gender. I think that gender is mostly a social construct because it does change from culture to culture. But it does seem that there are people out there that feel a big enough connection to the other gender that it greatly affects there lives.
Plus i would say that must people don't like there looks a good majority deal with it but that is one of the reasons why the cosmetic/plastic surgery industries are so big.
And it nice to see Rain standup up for herself for once.
royalsunce Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
wait so for most peple(males) an all=nighter will give them areson to shave but for Gavin it's the oposit????
PrincessPetticoat Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
I think that Gavin's brain was in his beard.
plastic-man Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
for most people a change in haircut indicates a significant personal change. For Gavin it's a shave.
Q9R42 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've gone through these thoughts myself, and thought it was kind of stupid. But ultimately, you gotta do what you feel is right for you, as long as it doesn't directly effect anyone else in a negative way.
Same goes for any change, really. Not just sex change.
seeker-of-revelation Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
The way I understand the science is that male and female brains are wired differently, and transgenderism arises when a brain is erroneously set up as the opposite sex in utero. Given that the human reproductive system is a product of nature's trial and error over the eons it's a wonder that anybody comes out as something that could be pointed to as "normal" in the first place.
VioletUke93 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I've been asked this alot too. My answer is always that my body is forcing me to live by an identitiy that I've never been.
Suki-chan36 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
Yay! Clean-shaven Gavin DOES exist!
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like to think of the dysphoria as being like trying to run OX Lion on a Dell... but I'm a transhumanist so maybe that's just me.
louisdragon109 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
are we getting somewhere here? :?:
Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
this is very interesting, i guess its a question that all trans people deal with. i like that come back Rain came up with, it sure left him speechless
Nelekra Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
I love that line o.o! I never really thought of that as a retort to people who care... Nice.
Avistew Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
It's something I've wondered in the past too. I don't get gender so I don't get how you can feel male or female. On the other hand I can get how the bodies are different. So could it be a feeling that your body isn't representative of the real you? But then couldn't that happen with other differences? I mean, couldn't there be people with a huge frame who feel that really, inside, they're small and demure? Or tall people who feel they're meant to be short? Or is sex the only thing that can have such a disconnect between what you are physically and how you feel you should be physically?
TheAlmightyMexican Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011
I actually asked this same question myself, but it was something I asked while I was still in middle school. I remembered the question in high school and thought the exact same thing. Things like this I can spend countless hours pondering it without coming up with a reasonable answer. But then again, I don't really think there is one.

I may not consider myself to be apart of the transgender community (because I'm only a closet crossdresser), but I can't think of an answer to the question as of WHY I enjoy crossdressing.
whitefox00 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I wouldn't be so quick to blame Gavin for anything he's said or thought. I've had friends way worse (and more annoying) than that. It's aggravating that they don't understand, but if they're making an honest effort (no matter how they phrase it), I feel it's best to be completely honest about it.

Also, I love Gavin's expression in the last panel. :)
Chicken-Yuki Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011   Traditional Artist
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