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RAIN p.68 - Kylie by JocelynSamara RAIN p.68 - Kylie by JocelynSamara
NOTE: On SmackJeeves and Comic Fury, I’d named this page Ky(lie). But DeviantArt has once again thwarted my creativity with titles; this time, by not allowing parentheses in them. Oh, heaven forbid, DA…

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Oh, Heather. That beer saved the side of your head from a royal whoopin’. Aunt Fara, “Defender of Transjustice” (I just made that up now) does not approve her trivializing comments. It’s clear that Fara’s getting uncomfortable and probably wondering if she should kidnap Ky(lie).

Speaking of whom, I imagine that kid is confusing a lot of people right now. Are we looking at a true female-to-male transsexual in hiding (or denial)? Perhaps he’s only playing along until he can get away from Heather? Maybe he’s even completely unaware of his own feelings on the matter? Or simply a devoted crossdresser? Any thoughts?

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AcceptableReject Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015  New member Hobbyist Artist
Or maybe ky(lie) is just genderfluid? Sounds like it.... THEY LOOK SO CUTE THO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD *fanboying little pansexual right now* Ky(lie) fanclub UNITE! Haha my bff Jessi is just like Fara <3
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kittysdemon Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Student General Artist
Being genderfluid and all, I totally get Ky(lie). It's really hard to be that way in public, though. Especially when I'm starting to slide from genderfluid to being agender...
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arbysmcdouble Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Student General Artist
Ooooooooooo h my Lord it's a genderqueer I love this comic
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CrimsonScissorhands Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wooooo Gender-fluidity!!! :D
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Sumrr Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
Kylie seems to be the opposite gender-ed version of me. VERY happy to see you're exploring all sides of this issue. *T*H*A*N*K*  *Y*O*U*
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LadyKittyKid Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
a few years too late to the party but WOOO Gender fluid~ :D loving the comic even though i'm laaaaaaaaaate~ X3
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Shikku27316 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
If it's just that Kylie likes dressing as a boy sometimes and a girl sometimes, then she would be a crossdresser. If she actually feels male sometimes and female other times, then she's bigender. Does she feel like a boy sometimes and a girl other times, or does she just dress that way? Because it would make a difference.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
bigender :la:
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Mizuki-chan7 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Student General Artist
it sounds like bigender
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GodzillaRulz Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
thats what i was thinking too...but to be fair; she's/he's Ky for most of the story so i'm a lil skeptical
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Matthew4475 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013
That's a good point, but I think a lot of that is because Ky(lie) didn't want to complicate things with her new friends, so s(he) just kept presenting as male.
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GodzillaRulz Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
that DOES make sense, now that i think about it
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RamenChicken Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel like Ky is bi-gender, moving between boths genders fluidly depending on their feelings at the time.
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Ryu890 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012
Gender Fluid...Gender Queer.....so many possibilities. :) Whats wrong with switching pronouns every so often?
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nathannano Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Student Artist
it is androgyny
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PieGuy993 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Student General Artist
Mmmmm...Beer...
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Tanooki-Tom Featured By Owner May 14, 2011
Yeah, Heather is very lucky for offering that beer when she did. VERY lucky...
I'm not sure if Ky(lie) would count as transsexual. (S)He did say that (s)he alternates, so... Yeah, I don't know.

"Aunt Fara, Defender of Transjustice"... You have got to make a logo for that! XD
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coffinstufferd Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
"You look tense, want a beer?" Haha that made me laugh. I imagined going to a masseuse and being handed a beer. Or maybe one of those asian doctors with all the needles...

OMGosh at all the labels in the comments that people have come up with these days. Do we really need a label for every single person? No two people are the same, even if they have the same label.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Professional Writer
This is an excellent point. I feel like I'm not even sure what several of the suggested terms are (although ironically, I suspect most of them are synonomous with each other). ^^;
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coffinstufferd Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
My thoughts exactly! :D
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Werewolf-Hero Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I wish I could be like Kylie. I feel taped being locked into one or the other. Changing with my mood from male to female. But I'm a big fat man and I can't. Way coudent I have a body that could pass for woman.
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Akira37 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
Is that an androgyne? In a comic?! AWESOME!!! Also, I love the series so far ^_^
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slightly-shotgunned Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
Maybe I'm reading too much into this but that's pretty gender specific at the end there, Lynn. I wonder...
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stantonphl Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Or just gender neutral like me ^-^
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dolphin64575 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Ky(lie) might be genderfluid...
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13BridgesofWater Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
I will be interested to see whether Ky(lie) turns out to be FTM or genderqueer, or something else. Although not knowing does make pronoun use a bit more confusing. I like how you have such a diverse set of characters.

"Defender of Transjustice" is a great name for Aunt Fara.
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Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student Writer
Interesting page. And boy do i know the feeling of wanting to be the other gender sometimes, while wanting to stay the same gender sometimes. There are times where i really wish i could change back and fourth between genders.
So one question, are dresses all they have? It seems like that maybe they just felt like wearing something fancy because they look kind of fancy.
Well as for Kylie well that very interesting to consider is she really a crossdresser or a FtM so far to me it seems as thou she is just a crossdresser but that is because she hasn't displayed any dislike with her body or any kind of gender dysphoria yet. Plus it appears as thou she has done it for a while because she could most likely pass as both a male and female depending on how she dressed.
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Dinadan-Ermorfea Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
My thoughts:

Maybe (s)he's bigendered? Not sure if that's the right term, so sorry if it's not - what I mean is (s)he identifies as both genders and can switch between the two (not neccessarily on a whim, more likely it'd be an unconsious switch).
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Retro-Spudnik Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
I think Kylie is genderqueer, so (s)he's like... Both? XD I used to be genderqueer and like that.
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Maiden-Of-The-Maggot Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Kylie is purdy. :iconilavplz:
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UsagiKnight Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
To be honest, based on my own feelings, Ky may have some denial at the moment. Because 'sometimes' she feels like a man and 'sometimes' not. So the best way to describe it is that she might be a transman that is unsure of her feelings. This probably enforced by living with Heather. Sometimes even losing the motivation for simple psychological treatment. But this is a fate most of us deal with.

When you compare Ky to Rain, we as the audience a better since of how brave Rain is. That she is so sure of who she is and will not turn away from it. The one thing I guess I hope the most for Ky is that confusion will eventually pass.

I also love how you draw Ky (please tell me if I'm correct with the name by the way, also avoiding pronouns based on the confusion/denial theory). Ky obviously has some good muscle mass based on stance, as well as a sharp hair style and somewhat broad chin. This gives Ky a nice boyish look despite being on no hormones, but still feminine when dressed the right way. To be honest Ky has become one of my favorite designs for minor character. Looking forward to learning more about Ky as Rain continues her journey.
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Zomgkitty42 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
omg Kylie looks so cute
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Werewolf-Hero Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Wish I could be like that
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blieb1212 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
I'm the exact same situation :I
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COMPUTERMANMIK428 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
still love it XD
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majorkerina Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student Writer
Hmm...interesting. Although I'm not sure why the confusion of gender is used with her and we haven't seen any of that with Rain so far. Why is Rain so much more certain in her identity? The fact she has so many people behind/supporting her? I'm sure you don't intend that transboys aren't as serious about their gender identity as transgirls but this is definitely a complication I'm curious to see playing out.
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Professional Writer
Not at all. Though I did worry people might interpret it as such, I absolutely do NOT wish to imply one group as being more serious than another. Rather, there is a variable factor.

For example, I have known I wanted to be the other sex for as long as I've... known things. This is actually a common case among transsexuals. But just AS common, are people who might recognize that something is up, but aren't sure what. They may continue to be unsure for their entire lives! It has nothing at all to do with whether they start out as genetic boys or girls, but rather just who they are.

Incidentally, while I know far fewer transboys in real life, they're pretty much all VERY serious. But I also know a lot of transgirls, and some of whom are a little wishy-washy. Nothing is wrong with either, and neither example is representative of EVERY transboy or girl. People are different. It's just that simple.
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majorkerina Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Student Writer
Understood. That was my suspicious with the intent ^^. And yeah, same here with transboys. And yeah, people are all different. I am curious though if this character has a different feelings in private...quite intriguing ^^.
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Goodwrangler3 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
Well I wasnt prepare for this surprise, so good job on keeping things unexpected.
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fakenameyfakenamey Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
Kylie kind of pisses me off. I think it's mostly her pose in panel 5. Intentionally unsympathetic character?
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Professional Writer
Kylie's just very... nonchalant. ^_^
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chihuahua0 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student Writer
Not all transgender characters are going to be shy like Rain. :3
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KirukaChan Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Starscream alert! We should start calling Ky(lie) "Air Commander".
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MikoMotoko Featured By Owner May 11, 2011
Interesting spin~
This is the first time commenting on this but I think it really says something you know?
And it really makes people think about their own identity.
There's just this incessant need to label everything...society wise.
Okay I won't get into that but it was really amusing and I think people should just be themselves.
I think this really is well done and sends a great message.
Keep up the good work~
:hug:
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm willing to bet she (if that is the proper identifier in this case) is genuinely genderqueer; good mix into the comic.
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TheAlmightyMexican Featured By Owner May 10, 2011
hmmm.... Kylie is a tough one to figure out...
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JocelynSamara Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Professional Writer
Definitely. ^_^
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chihuahua0 Featured By Owner May 11, 2011  Student Writer
Did anyone guess that he/she might be genderqueer?
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