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RAIN ch.8 - Confrontation by JocelynSamara RAIN ch.8 - Confrontation by JocelynSamara
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Incidentally, Chapter 7 and 8 were originally meant to just be one chapter. But they both had such completely, dramatically different narratives, it didn’t feel right calling them the same chapter. For instance, whereas Chapter 7 jumped around all over to show different perspectives and various degrees of drama, Chapter 8 meanwhile is extremely concentrated. So much so, I couldn’t reasonably squeeze in all five of the main characters into this one. (Sorry Fara fans. I promise I’ll make it up to you in Chapter 9!) That also means this one is going to go pretty fast too.

Anyway, I can already imagine someone asking something ridiculous like, “oh my goodness, does the school get attacked by an army of bathroom symbol people?”. The short answer is no. The long answer follows it up with something akin to, “did you actually think that!?” But the explanatory answer is that I’m lazy, and if in the event that I have to draw a crowd of otherwise insignificant people, I’m probably just going to do this. Or, if I do draw them out (assuming I only need a couple insignificant people), they won’t be colored. Remember this going into the chapter, as there are crowds of uncolored people on a few occasions in this one.

Oh, and how do we like the sideways page layout? The dimensions are the same as any other page, you just have to “flip the book on its side” for this one. There’s probably not much use for this, save for the infrequent chapter page, but I felt it was worth giving a shot at least once.

Rain, all characters and all other aspects of the story are copyright material belonging to me.
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Fallenangel2002 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
i am exited :D
Xallamax Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oooo... the cover is great! Had to really step back and look for a little bit.

Also, first post on DA after being out of the nut house! Go me! :D
Musicallover1234 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Student Writer
Well it looks like this is going to be a very interesting and important chapter.I understand using the symbol of the bathroom symbols it means people and it easy. But the upcoming confrontation between Rain and Rudy is going to something very interesting.Oh, and i like the sideways look of the page.
TenaKitten Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012
I have been wondering the whole time what this (probably adams apple hiding) neck band is. What is it called? I never saw something like this in any shop (besides dog collars and such).
JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Professional Writer
In this case, it's just a simple black choker. I guess they don't typically look so simplistic, but you could find things that are remarkably similar-looking (albeit often very ornate) at stores that sell accessories. Alternately, I personally just wear hairbands around my neck sometimes; it'd be looser than what Rain's got on, but serves the same purpose.
TenaKitten Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012
Ohhh. Thanks a lot! ^_^
14bj337 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012
Oh no! Does this mean that St. Hallvard High has been struck by the disease that turns all minor characters into geometric figures? RUN, Drew, before the small amount of development you recently received is lost forever!

Seriously, though, I have MIXED FEELINGS about this one (heh heh, get it? what's that, I'm a chapter too late? darn...). I really like the core of this page; that is, Rain and Rudy standing there, staring at one another. The landscape layout heightens this effect, by emphasizing the distance between them. It's amazing how calm and inexpressive their faces are, when there's so much frustration, confusion, and hope (among thousands of other swirling, bubbling emotions) behind each one. I feel like this scene balances on a knife's edge; it could turn into yells or whispers, spite or forgiveness, argumentation or reconciliation. I really look forward to it!

Having said that, I don't like the rest of the page quite as much. It looks like Gavin and Maria are both staring off away from the fight, rather than at Rudy and Rain, respectively. That's what it looks like to me, at least; probably a combination of their expressions (if they were actually watching the confrontation, I'd think they'd be nervous), the angle of their eyes, and their relative sizes to the main characters. Of course, maybe the fault lies with me; maybe it's just the way I'm looking at it that's wrong.

Aside from that, I'm not a fan of the bathroom-symbol-crowd, either. Here's the thing, Lynn: the strongest aspect of your artwork is the human figures. Honestly, you're very talented at drawing people, and making them both distinct and expressive. To see most of what should be people drawn instead as polygons is rather disappointing. Having said that, I can understand why you're doing it; you can't let the story be held back by the art, after all. Still, I feel like even a "generic" crowd can look more human than what you have here; maybe if you made them light gray (uniform color), made them slightly taller, and turned the triangles into rectangles, they'd look more like people and less like short polygons that have overtaken the school.

I try to only be critical when I feel it may be a help to the artist, so if my words are no help to you, I apologize. Regardless, I feel like this is going to be a really intense chapter with a gripping storyline... I can't wait to read!
JocelynSamara Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Professional Writer
There's no need to apologize for making criticism. I ask for it. Besides, part of being an writer/artist is accepting that people may in fact not like the way I do things sometimes.

I do occasionally use these shapes for people in this chapter, but I do also occasionally use uncolored people (for smaller crowds). I can blame that on laziness all I want, but if you can believe it, one of the other reasons I do this is quite the opposite.

You see, virtually every secondary character that wasn't intended to be a big deal in this story actually has a significant role to play. What changed? To put bluntly, I designed them, and then I got attached to them and wanted to do more with them. And even if I don't get that attachment, if I give "too good of a design" to an insignificant character, people will clamor for the opportunity to see them again (which is really the only reason Randy is an officially named and recurring character). But when it comes down to it, I have a lot of characters to develop (not including planned character that still haven't been introduced) with a number of subplots to cover, and I simply don't want to add more right now. You might be thinking, "then don't", but it's really not that simple. For me, telling stories and creating characters can be just as much of a curse as it is a talent, and I will waste so much time figuring out a way to make what should've been a one-shot appearance squeeze into the normal roster. (Believe me, I've come up with entire stories to justify a single character design more than once in the past.)

As such, I am honestly going to maintain my stance and leave the bathroom symbol people for the time being. However, I may consider redrawing these later when this part would go to print. Don't hold me to this, but I really will consider it. You're not the only one to comment on it. If I change it later though, rather than right now, I won't have the same freedom to squeeze appealing new faces into the cast.
14bj337 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012
Thanks for listening to my thoughts, and for writing such a detailed response! Also, I'm grateful that I didn't offend you with my thoughts (honestly, offending you is one of the last things in the world I'd want to do).

When I wrote my comment earlier, I think I had forgotten that you would've already had the whole chapter drawn up (and to demand that you redraw a page just a few days before it comes out would be flat-out rude).

Oh, and I really like when a story goes into depth on its secondary characters. I can already see that happening in Rain, with characters like Drew and Emily breaking out of the woodwork (not to mention the perennial favorite, Randy!). So I can understand that making the background characters human would be a risk - you might feel obligated to tell their stories, and everything becomes cluttered (and it goes from being Rain to being Randy and Friends (which could actually be a lucrative spinoff, heh heh...)).

Still, it looks like it's going to be a great chapter regardless!
Doomdragon Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Aw Man, things are bout to get real in here!!
Animasword Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think the crowd works pretty well since the main focus is...well, the confrontation and not the extras. Either way it's a great cover, and it looks the events of the two previous chapters are coming to head in this one, although the sap in me hopes we get a happy ending out of it.
Avistew Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012
I completely ignored the crowd. Didn't see them at all. It could just be me, but I think maybe in future such cases making them grey (or if you want to be fancy, even a gradient that's darker as you go down, from light to dark grey) would work better?

It's fairly common to see that kind of shortcut, by the way, although usually the people are shown more "condensed" (so that there isn't really blank space between people's heads and the first row partially hides the people behind).

Anyway, nice two-pager, and I like the criss-cross of having Ruby and Maria on opposite sides of the page. The whole dynamics of the page works really well I think, so congrats on that :)
kalistina Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
This way of representing crowds is used by Brain Base (an anime studio) in Durarara!! and Mawaru Penguindrum, too~

It can actually be a choice motivated by different things than laziness. It helps guide the reader's attention to what actually is important in an otherwise complex scene. Very effective in animation when the clock is ticking - you don't want the watcher to get lost in the scenery on a first run (that's for rewatch sessions).
chihuahua0 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Student Writer
Fight, fight fight--

/knocked over
HawkWalker Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012
Yay! I really want to see what happens after everything played out last chapter :D
COMPUTERMANMIK428 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012
looks like things are really going to heat up :)
Undertaker972 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012
very nice, seems like its gonna be an interesting chapter
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